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He gathers the lambs in his arms and carries them close to his heart. Isaiah 40:11

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Quick Prayer Please! UPDATE


Hi guys,


I'm sending in an announcement to our church for placement in the bulletin and about half expect to be faced with some opposition.  Teddy & I want to share our story and to lead our Sunday school class in discussions about homosexuality.  I emailed our pastor (believes homosexuality is a sin) to get his "approval" (on the announcement, not on the class) but he hasn't answered me.  I just emailed the proposed announcement to the (welcoming & affirming) associate pastor to get her opinion.  Please pray that doors will be opened for this class and that anyone who would benefit from it be led to be there!


Thanks!



-- Edited by Mama Lisa at 21:45, 2006-06-04

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You are my shero.  :) 


 




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He gathers the lambs in his arms and carries them close to his heart. Isaiah 40:11

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Aw, thanks!  But your "shero" is feeling attacked!  The associate pastor wrote back & asked if all sides were going to be presented and what sources we are using.  Still waiting for her reply to my last email!!

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Do they normally present "all sides" of issues in sunday school programs.


Explicitly state your purpose:  "The Journey of Love:  Christian parents of a gay son"  This Sunday School class is for parents of gay & lesbian children of God.  Our goals are to share our experiences in such a way that support and bring hope & healing to other families with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered children.  We will be using the following resources for the class:


Rev. Mel White's book, "Stranger at the Gate"


Christian Youth:  An Important Voice in the Struggle for Gay Rights in America http://www.soulforce.org/pdf/youthstudyguide.pdf


Straight Parents, Gay Children
by Robert Bernstein


...and other resources...


http://www.pflag.org/Reader_s_Corner.536.0.html


www.souforce.org/videos


 


 



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He gathers the lambs in his arms and carries them close to his heart. Isaiah 40:11

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Nathan, excellent point about presenting all sides.  I still haven't heard back from the associate pastor.  I'm really praying for God to move in this!


Just for clarification - this is our regular Sunday school class and we want to talk about homosexuality for the 1st 3 weeks in June.  It's not an entire class devoted to support, but that may be something to think about.


By the way, I ordered that book Straight Parents/Gay Children.  We'll be checking out the other resources you mentioned. 


Thanks!!



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I'm praying for you!! I hope everything goes well! Love you tons!

Keep us informed. And, thank you for taking that one step to get your church moving in the right direction. It may be rejected; however, everything has a time and place--so whatever you do...don't give up!!

I wish all mothers were like u.

God bless.
Darrel

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This may be a something you want to start in your own home... a fellowship group & bible study...  ?  :)

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I will be praying about this tonight Mama Lisa....


 


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Hello Mama:


Prayers for you tonight that doors open either at your church or at a venue where you can present God's Love to those Gays who are hurting from being bashed by the conventional church and religion.


All the best


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I am praying for you and PapaBear!


As an ex-Sunday school teacher, I know how hard it is to get things changed within a church...especially one with a very conservative belief system. It can make you want to pull your hair out trying to get someone to change their ways and "traditions" of how things in a church should go.


All of my love and hope is with you!


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Update:  I never heard back from the associate pastor today, but I did hear from the senior pastor.  I don't think he's comfortable with us doing the class, but he will not stand in our way.  (When I originally told him about the class, I said something about the hairs on the back of his neck standing up.  When I emailed him again to ask for a reply, I asked if the hairs had laid down.  He said no!  )


The announcement won't be in the church wide bulletin because of space, but I am going to do a flyer to be handed out in the adult Sunday school classes.  Please continue to pray that the ones who need to be there will hear about the class.



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You continue to be in my prayers. :)

Love,
Darrel

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RE: Quick Prayer Please! UPDATE


We had our first class today and I think it went well.  I talked too fast and rambled, and Teddy was so thoughtful in what he said that he ran out of time.  But we seemed to get very positive responses from people.  I was hoping that others from outside our class would be there, but it was just our class members.


One very good thing was an old member who came after a very long absence.  He came up to me afterward and said that his brother & sister (twins 7 years younger than he) are both gay.  He talked about how much he loved them and how the fact that they are gay doesn't affect that love.  He also works with Boy Scouts.  I had commented that I wish I knew then what I know now, because I could have helped Alan through his struggles.  This man asked me what to say if any of his scouts tell him they are struggling with homosexuality.  (He works with 10 - 12 year olds).  I told him to tell them that no matter what, God still loves them, and that he would still love them.  I told him to be there for them because it's very likely that their parents won't be - at least at first.  I also told him that to tell the boys that 12 may be too young to make that declaration, but that being gay was not a horrible thing.


Next week we will be looking at the "clobber passages".  Keep us in your prayers both as we prepare & next Sunday as we teach!!



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I downloaded Teddy a booklet that should help you with your class. It's about homosexuality and the Bible. I will try to find you more stuff.


I will keep praying!


Jeffrey 2 help U guys!



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I am so excited you are doing this Mama. You know you are in my prayers. A really great book for you is called "Steps to Recovery From Bible Abuse" by Dr Rembert Truluck. Its an awesome book and I recommend it to everyone! It deals with the issue of homosexuality very nicely.

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