Miss Lett, take a memo:

"Dear Kirk Cameron,

I have watched your show, "The Way of the Master", on many nights and on one episode, you and Ray Comfort talked about how being born gay "proves nothing" and that it just means that we all have a sinful nature that we must destroy. I find this rather amusing. Why? Because I remember how some Christians, back in the early days of American exploration, would claim being born a "savage" (Native American) was something that needed to be "corrected"...which meant that guys like YOU would come into our lands, destroy our peaceful villages and way of life, and FORCE us "savages" to accept Christ as our Savior...just before making us travel on the "Highway of Tears" to places further West...which also were taken from us. They also believed that while a "slave" (African American) was eligible to accept salvation he would, however, "shed his blackness" and become white before entering Heaven. We laugh at such ignorance today...but back in those days, these were church DOCTRINES, and to stand up against such IDIOCY would get one branded as a HERETIC!

Think for a moment (if your CALVINISM allows you to)...could Christians like you be suffering from the same ignorant dogma when it comes to your beliefs about homosexuality? I assure you, gentlemen, that I have prayed for DECADES to be delivered from my homosexuality, but never receiving it. (I guess I'm just PRE-ORDAINED to hell regardless of my love for Christ) However, I know that I have been born again and that I'm not a "perpetual backslider" because the Holy Spirit has delivered me from MANY sinful habits and desires...like trying to CONFORM myself to "super-saints" like yourselves.

My own YEARS of studying the Holy Scriptures have shown me that NOWHERE within them is it written that God made all of humanity "straight" (as if ANYTHING about us humans were). The verses that Christians like you use as BASEBALL BATS to justify hatred against believers like me were written within a culture that was being assailed by heathen pagans that were using ALL SORTS of sexual pleasures as means of worshipping false idols, and have NO RELEVANCE to the type of homosexuality that I was BORN with. How I live as a gay man...THAT is MY CHOICE that makes it either good or evil.

And, thanks and all praises to my Lord Jesus, I am now able to live my life as a gay Christian with purpose and righteousness, helping other gay Christians to stay true to BOTH the Scriptures AND to their Lord.

But, alas, I forget...I have been PREDESTINED to go to hell REGARDLESS of what the Lord has done in me!

Signed,
Jeffrey Williams

P.S.
Have you and Alan Thicke done anymore partying in the grotto at the PLAYBOY MANSION recently? "

Don't pay any attention, Mama, to these morons on YouTube and GodTube. "Believers" like these just want converts to their church...and your money in their collection plates!

Spoiler Alert! There is no hell after death: Only the ones we create in this life!

Subtopic... When people try to convert Gays and others to Christianity... because they say they don't want us to go to HELL...such as former child actor and Adult actor wanna be Kirk Cameron

Okay, I am asking myself... do I really want to do this... do I really want to come out of the closet again... okay I will... I used to be like Kirk Cameron... I used to be a fundamentalist, right winger... I even told gays at my college they were going to hell if they didn't repent---God please for give me!!!

But thankfully for people like Kirk Cameron, Fred Phelps and Lou Sheldon and Jerry Falwell and James Dobson... There is no BURNING hell... where people burn forever and ever in torment...

My God of total unconditional love would not create or allow such place to exist.  However, I do believe that WE CREATE HELL in our minds and on EARTH for ourselves and for others.  I lived in this HELL  for over 12 years as I wrestled with my love for Jesus Christ and my absolute total devotion to him and to God and my desire to serve him fully and completely and to live a perfect, blameless Saintly life... and yet... I had a sexual orientation that the church and my parents told me was sinful... NO matter what I did, how much I prayed, how much I read my Bible, How many Christian therapists & pastors I went to, no matter how many times I was anointed with oil and had people lay hands on me and pray for me... my sexual orientation did not change.

The only thing that did happen is my sexual attraction to men got stronger and stronger the harder I tried to fight it... so one of the Ex-gay ministries I joined, Homosexuals Anonymous... I was a leader of the local group, went to Pennsylvania for training with the Founder and the leaders... and lusted for a guy I met there the whole time... and then one of the guys that I met in my group back in NC... eventually seduced me after literally a year of trying... and got me in bed with him, because I stayed at his house after getting caught in a snow storm in 2 hours away from my home in another town... we eventually had sex... the first time I had sex in over 12 years and the first time I had sex as an adult the last time was with a boy my age at about 14 or 15 years old.

This really opened the flood gates... now... I felt more alive than I had ever felt... Previously I had always felt too ugly for anyone to want to date me much less have sex with me... (I was born with a birth mark and have some facial scars after about 12 plastic surgeries to correct the birthmark)...

Sex became a drug to help me cope with my horrible job situation that was undermining my self esteem since it was my first professional job after college graduation and the first thing I was not able to succeed and flourish at... I began having sex so compulsively that it really didn't matter where or with who, sometimes because I would get so desperate for a "sexual high/fix" by 3 or 4 a.m. after hours of cruising for the right one... and... Mind you... they were all not all trolls... some of them were models, actors, gorgeous, gorgeous men, I had men pursuing me like I was a "10" and I am not talking size here... although I am blessed in that department that helped (thank you God for my penis... I love it... I enjoy my toy... thanks for teaching me how to use it in a healthy way... Praise God--that was serious... but also an attempt to lighten the mood, folks)

IT was amazing.... I had several marriage proposals from really attractive guys... I turned them all down... because I was not gay.... I was just a sinner, trying to get a control of my sexual compulsiveness.... yeah right....

it wasn't until October 1988 when someone I had been sexually intimate with on a regular basis with ... infected me with HIV... we got careless---personally I didn't care... I had just told God in April that year if he could be more Glorified by me getting AIDS than not... then I was ready and willing to get it...

Then, the tests in December proved what I suspected happened in October I was positive; In January my friend was diagnosed with AIDS.  In March I was fired because I told a nurse that I was HIV +.... This was at a Charter Hospital where I was moonlighting as a mental health and chemical dependency tech part-time (and I Loved this job and thought it was going to be my salvation... because my sexual compulsion had stopped for the 3 months I was working here... despite my unhappiness at my full-time day job)...  I hired an attorney, but we decided against fighting... because I didn't' want my grandparents to find out about my HIV... I felt it would kill them.

I tried to continue at my horrible job as an income tax auditor (it was so bad, the building was old and filthy... we were over worked and people were constantly getting sick physically and mentally)... finally I snapped and became very suicidal... after months of only sleeping 3 or 4 hours a night Sunday through Thursday due to anxiety of going to work the next day... I would sit on the edge of my bed and cry every morning before I got dressed... because I didn't know how I could make another day at that filthy repressive work environment... So VERY LONG story>>>> winding down... I ended up in the hospital... twice... a month a part largely because of this job... they called it Post traumatic stress disorder and Major Depression with Suicidal tendencies and Ideations.

FAST forward... I went on disability moved to California, got involved with First Evangelical Free Church of Fullerton, which was very positive... but also started doing a lot of reading about God and Homosexuality.... Beyond being Gay by Brian McNaught and Several Books by the Late Reverend Sylvia Pennington helped me tremendously as well as Books by the Late scholar John Boswell; Bishop John Shelby Spong, and reading my Bible and praying>>> God revealed to me... that I had CREATED my own HELL on earth, I had separated myself from him... that he said that nothing could separate us from his love... neither, heights, nor depths, nor angels, or principalities, or life nor death... nothing could ever separate us from his love... HOWEVER... I had cut myself off from this love... at least momentarily.... this is when I discovered the true meaning of HELL... the self-inflicted separation for God and God's unconditional love.

This is also when I began understanding more fully what Jesus was trying to tell the people some 2000 years ago... that the Kingdom of God is at hand... or it is among you... that he came to bring us life and to bring us Life more abundantly... JESUS, God, Yahweh, Jehovah, Buddha, Allah, the God of our Understanding... OUR MERCIFICUL, LOVING, Devine CREATOR... CREATED us PERFECTLY in HIS/HER/THEIR/ITS image.... total Unconditional LOVE...

So, Let Kirk Cameron, and others spread their "false messages of salvation from a fictitious hell"... Some of you will no doubt STRONGLY disagree with me on this... but I believe that the ONLY HELL... is one that is lived in Separation from GOD=UNCONDITIONAL LOVE... OF which I am absolutely sure I will never be separated.  Therefore I live in the Kingdom of God now... I live Abundant LIFE now... My salvation is sure... Thanks to God's unconditional love and the constant reminder of how far Jesus went to show us that unconditional love... laying down his very life for us.

Hugs,
Jerry

-- Edited by m4mluvlife at 18:00, 2007-08-25